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blast off on another vip

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episode of hero podcast

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that's right hero paranormal podcast my

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name is ryan

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the original outlaw of the airwaves

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broadcasting just south of area 51 at

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the base of la madre mountain

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and today we're bringing you the

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inevitable that's right we are treading

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on thin

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ice today guys and why is it thin ice

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we're gonna discuss my friend jeremy

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corbell's recent leak

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along with george knapps of pentagon

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uaps if you will because everyone has an

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and that's why it is thin ice are they

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drones

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are they aliens are they

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are they even technology the way we

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understand technology

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they can actively jam our radar and

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what do i personally think they are well

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you're going to find out and

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it isn't just what i think and what i'm

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discussing

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with none other than

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erica luke's from ufo classified

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erika and i don't always see eye to eye

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but we always play nice at least in my

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opinion you decide

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i really enjoy what erica brings to the

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she always has viewpoints that open my

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mind to different ideas

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thinking and even theories at times one

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thing is for sure

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these ufos or uaps

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whatever you want to call them show

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advancements in technology that no

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nation on earth has ever displayed

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they can actively jam radar and defense

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systems

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do we believe the pentagon when we

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some say no i say heck yes

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i will take anything i can get when it

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comes to information

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no matter who it comes from and

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who says all ufos are anything in

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george and jeremy are not claiming that

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these are time traveling reptilians here

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to take over our planet

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no they are claiming these craft are

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legitimately unidentified

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thing is for sure they are showing

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advancements in technology

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and uh the video we're discussing and

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are all over the internet this leak is

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the video is of a pyramid ufo

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near a navy destroyer the footage was

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leaked to jeremy corbell he exclusively

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and the pentagon confirmed jeremy was

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able to obtain

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and release the unclassified images and

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footage along with mentor george knapp

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that's my understanding and i could be

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is this the slow drip disclosure

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i love this kind of disclosure no matter

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i mean the thing is flying in the sky

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how cool is that not a bad thing right

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well many disagree and their reasons are

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but the uap phenomenon is gaining

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we will get into this and so much more

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and before we do let me do a little s i

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guess shameless

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self promotion uh if you haven't gone to

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heroparanormal.com

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please do hit that donate button that

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and for the price of a cup of coffee a

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month you're in the winner's circle

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that's that moving on erika luke's

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welcome

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to the hero paranormal podcast there

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at least it's spring you know have you

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um gosh i can't complain it seems like

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every time we talk it's it seems like

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it's been too long

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but lately things are so messed up it's

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dang everybody's just surviving or maybe

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i'm just speaking for myself

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now i think everybody i know is going

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through a time

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you know it's just like it's it's a

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weird weird time for everybody and i

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over you know everything that happened

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with covet and is still happening and

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amen for that and today i mean we're

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ice as usual yourself and i erica we're

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um our mutual quote on well friend

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jeremy corbell's recent

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leak along with george knapp i guess of

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the pentagon ufos because

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everyone has an opinion about this are

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they drones are they aliens are they

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and i know that you and i are going to

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kind of deep dive into that

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created quite the buzz and an

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international buzz to say the least and

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it is interesting to see how many uh

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people are popping up on the radar with

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new youtube channels and all sorts of

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all sorts of things taking place so

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there's a big push by

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some someone or a group of people to get

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information out whether it's true or not

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as a different story

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yeah and for those that don't know we're

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talking about the pyramid ufo near a

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navy destroyer the footage was leaked uh

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to jeremy corbell he exclusively

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the pentagon confirmed jeremy was able

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to obtain and release

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unclassified images and footage along

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this information

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they these these things can actively jam

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myself i think um you know today we're

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they this is this is crazy erica what

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these things don't always play nice

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a definite attempt to cover this up

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for i can you know for a multitude of

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i think you know it's all of this is

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very peculiar but we do know when we

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specific types of technologies that we

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something along those lines and to me

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that would make much more sense than

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saying that this is from uh another

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freaky i like it i will take it

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and anything i can get when it comes to

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this type of information i say heck yes

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time traveling reptilians here to take

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unidentified and one thing is for sure

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pyramid ufo near a navy destroyer in the

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guess heck no right

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i kind of love this raw and rugged kind

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of disclosure no matter what

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which is not a bad thing right

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you know i mean it it is it's all it's

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opportunity to try to use this leverage

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this to get good information

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out but again you know when you've got

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so much disinformation that is coming

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forward and a lot of people don't have

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the time to really dig into things then

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on on the periphery and i think that

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accurate information they're not looking

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different games and tactics that are

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uh decade after decade and so it is it's

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about the youtube channels coming out

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engaging this phenomenon oh i lost you

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it just seemed to be pretty much like

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that like zero communication

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for a moment and uh somebody pulled out

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their cell phone i guess or i don't know

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on the other hand i have heard some

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leaks

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that this is actually uh what

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well there's a different kind of system

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that actually videotape this an electro

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optic sensor anyway i don't know

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but the the bottom line is you know i'm

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not going to argue what kind of

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uh photo you know how it was

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photographed that's way

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above my pay grade but what i will say

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is it definitely gathered the attention

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of the mainstream

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and that is where that's a whole

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phenomena unto itself right erica

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you know it is and but i will say again

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looking back historically i mean you've

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always had you know back in the 50s

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uh 60s i mean this this subject

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always could and did grab headlines you

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know i have

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as you know because you've been to it

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you haven't been lately but one of the

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biggest archives in the country now

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and in in that i have newspaper

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clippings and periodicals from all over

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the world

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and um yeah i mean just all of the

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things that just go back and it's like

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yes it's always been there

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and it almost seems that back

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in the day you know maybe the 50s and

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60s that the subject was a little bit

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more

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respectable instead of having it so um

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filled full of of people that are

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promoting

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conspiracy theories and and a lot of

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misinformation it was much more pure

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back in the day because i think there

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was more

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control over the content if that makes

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sense

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yes and who is controlling the content

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always is a big question

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too it makes me that's why this kind of

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disclosure no matter what it is

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everybody prefers the slow drip

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disclosure but that's just

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kind of like the wheels are greased and

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they're going along the road

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it's just occasionally that you get

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these

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for lack of a better word uh explosions

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in the field of whoa

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what's what is this in the water and in

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in it's it it sends ripples throughout

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where people are actually engaging so

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much that they're starting youtube

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channels

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that's been a fascinating thing to see

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there's definitely

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a push by a certain group of people

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shall we say

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to get different spokes people out there

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uh

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promoting different versions of the same

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theme

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and you know on one token we have a very

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well respected

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as far as journalism is concerned george

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knapp over 30 years

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a mentor to jeremy corbell who

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is kind of you know the one thing i do

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appreciate is he has that shock

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he gets everybody's attention i don't

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care who they

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are it's just his demeanor and

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um the first time i met him i was

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shocked i was just like this is not what

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i expected which

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was maybe exactly what i should have

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expected and

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that's what's so cool about him but on

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the same token he's been attacked a lot

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people are calling him a cia asset which

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i argue

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were all cia assets if if you live in

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this country but

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there's a lot of other you know

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interesting intricacies that are

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as far as investigative journalism

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of course everybody wants to know where

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this came from

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i argue that it's interesting that the

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pentagon

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you know it is but i guess when you look

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at what the pentagon is saying again

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you've got susan goff the

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the pentagon spokesperson i mean she's

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saying yes this is

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uh unidentified but i mean you when you

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hear her

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historically too she's not you know

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coming out and saying

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these are ufos you know this is it's not

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people are reading a lot more into i

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believe

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into her statements uh than

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should be read into them you know and so

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people automatically jump to the fact

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that this you know

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okay it's an unknown that must mean it's

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extraterrestrial

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and we've got to kind of get a handle on

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that one

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out there theory well and you know i

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don't want to dispel

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any theory because then again this is a

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very

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to

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you know take people's experiences

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encounters etc

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and demean them but at the same time

417
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it's definitely something that is

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gaining traction that historically

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in our community was not i have i have

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neighbors who know

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i'm kind of that all of a sudden i'm the

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cool guy

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like they're coming over and inviting me

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to stuff and

425
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hey man what do you think about the

426
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pyramid and and i'm just like this is so

427
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weird these are neighbors

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and they're talking to me about

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something that i'm

430
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fairly knowledgeable about and they're

431
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asking me what i think

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and um i love any disclosure

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because we need it but we need to get

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into

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exactly what people think because

436
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i never would have noticed right yes we

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are quite

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you know unique in that regard we have

439
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uh

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we have passions that most people don't

441
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have that is for sure but you're right

442
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it is fun to have

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different people that you would never

444
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expect just kind of say hey wait a

445
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minute you know i saw this

446
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you know here and and then you know that

447
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opens up a dialogue i think

448
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that's cool and that gives us a chance

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to

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share some of our experiences about

451
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whatever we've

452
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encountered and also the the research

453
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we've done

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yeah like um i had

455
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the best man at my wedding uh you know

456
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he called me up and the first things out

457
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of his mouth were confirmed by the

458
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pentagon filmed by the navy i was wrong

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man

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and i'm like what the crap

461
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you know that is awesome well you know

462
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it's definitely people are are paying

463
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attention

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and you know again you know you

465
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mentioned disclosure and the dripping of

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disclosure and then

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you know we're having this big

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announcement which i have a feeling will

469
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turn out not to be so big but that's

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typically

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the way it goes but i think it is it's

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just it's a fascinating time to be

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studying the subject and it is it's very

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interesting to me to see

475
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again i i like to watch the people

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involved

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and the different you know ways that

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they're spinning specific things and

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um i've been really kind of digging into

480
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the coast to coast aspect and some of

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the people they've

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supported and promoted on their shows

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over the years and some of their

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uh leanings and even digging into harry

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reid's background is certainly bringing

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up a lot of utah connections and then

487
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also just a lot of interesting

488
00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:02,160
um connections in general so it's it's

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this is a big

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big subject you know especially when you

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go into the big deep dive

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like you and i have done

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it is deeper than deep

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it's it's more of an abyss than deep

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it's it's like

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i love it i love it it's cool it's

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something

498
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right i hear you know what i mean it

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definitely

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is it's um it i you know i like

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sometimes i just wish that it could i

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could go back to

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the days when i first started this and

504
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just kind of have that that sense of

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wonder and awe and the kind of believing

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everything that is being put forward you

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know because that was such a fun

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fun place to be in and now i know a

509
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little bit better and it's just like ah

510
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you and i've had these conversations you

511
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know many times before it's like ah dang

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right could that really be what's going

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on that's not what we wanted

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no and this is a very strange issue

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i think i want to take some quotes here

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one thing's for sure

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these ufos and these uaps are showing

518
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advancements in technology that no

519
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nation on earth has

520
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ever displayed and that's a quote from

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jeremy

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the other is that they can actively jam

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our radar and defense systems manipulate

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nuclear weapons and according to jeremy

525
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it doesn't matter where ufos or uips

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come from

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that's an epistemological issue which i

528
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could barely say

529
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but people can deal with and

530
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is this you know is this a question of

531
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what these things are or is it a

532
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question of are they

533
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maybe there's a reason they're actively

534
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engaging over

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our and other military installations and

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that

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thought because again i go back to the

538
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fact that this is

539
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even though jeremy says that this is

540
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technology that is it's not we're not

541
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capable of i mean i

542
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i'm not sure if he's looked at uh

543
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delved into other types of technologies

544
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especially and we've got to throw into

545
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account that you know there are

546
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technologies that we have

547
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,159
you know that we don't it isn't public

548
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:20,080
you know i mean you know how this goes

549
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:22,080
it's like we're we're learning things 20

550
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years

551
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:26,080
behind what is is being tested

552
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,799
in our skies or under the water you know

553
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on land and things and so

554
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i think we have to take that into

555
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account and is

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you know is it more likely like i said

557
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that these are

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00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:40,640
drone swarms from a foreign country that

559
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are following

560
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:44,480
uh you know our battleships and flying

561
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,200
over

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nuclear installations and shutting

563
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:48,880
things down and different things like

564
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that would that be more of a

565
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:53,440
uh something that a foreign adversary

566
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would want to do or we would want to be

567
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,880
learning how to do ourselves what better

568
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,480
way to pump the brakes

569
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and i hate to say it but replace the

570
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fuel filter and

571
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everything else the visual checks

572
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on these areas are vital and i'm just

573
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:10,640
gonna

574
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:14,240
hurt me in the pocketbook come tax time

575
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:15,200
but

576
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:23,669
it's so true the way these things fly in

577
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:26,159
like they own the place and then fly out

578
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,280
like they own the place

579
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:29,600
it's almost as if they own the place and

580
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,400
i hope maybe i'm just too patriotic

581
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,640
that you know when people ask me what i

582
00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:36,000
think and i could

583
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:38,799
i'm usually wrong just for the record

584
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:39,440
but

585
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:42,159
i think i hope i hope maybe it's just

586
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:43,600
i'm an optimist

587
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:46,720
i hope that it's just above everybody's

588
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,669
i i hope so too i mean and you know if

589
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,720
we

590
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,640
i don't know there's so many questions

591
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:57,840
and i

592
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:01,760
i would definitely say that

593
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,200
i don't know what i mean yeah i don't

594
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,360
know what i would say because just

595
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:07,200
there's so much to say it's like where

596
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:08,480
do you start but

597
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:11,200
i do yeah i think that there is there

598
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:13,200
are things that we just don't

599
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:15,520
we don't know about uh things that are

600
00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:16,720
taking place with it

601
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,400
you know we would i mean all of us that

602
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:20,000
we just we don't need to know we can't

603
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:20,799
know

604
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:23,760
for national security and and things and

605
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,640
if if stories are put out to discourage

606
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:29,200
you know or to kind of offer red herring

607
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:29,919
then

608
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:33,200
that's that's the way it goes but it's

609
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,240
you know i i i don't know i mean what do

610
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:38,640
you think do you think that this is

611
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:41,440
this is man-made technology god i hope

612
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:42,080
so

613
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:45,679
and um either that or i hope that

614
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:48,400
it is that horrible word i just said i

615
00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:50,880
didn't mean that in vain

616
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:52,480
it's got to be one of the two in my

617
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:54,080
opinion if you're an optimist

618
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:57,279
this is either this is either my

619
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,880
assessment of how the government is

620
00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:59,760
handling this

621
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:02,480
is dangerous to make assumptions if this

622
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,840
is gathered by

623
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,840
electro optic and sensor data that i

624
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:07,679
have no idea and this is usually how it

625
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,159
works

626
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,559
the general civilian has no idea what

627
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:12,159
these people are talking about

628
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:14,720
and if assap and atip are any idea when

629
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:15,600
we still have

630
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:18,080
let's find out more but these vehicles

631
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,120
are cutting edge

632
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,000
and it's increasing in frequency

633
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:24,480
sightings and encounters are increasing

634
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,679
and uh you know according to many

635
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,840
depending on you know there's a fence

636
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:31,679
there's a line in the sand

637
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:34,559
and you have to pick a i i say aim for

638
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:35,200
the fence

639
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:38,159
because holy crap the theories are out

640
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:39,039
there right

641
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:44,789
you know i yeah i think you're right the

642
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:46,400
theories are out there and

643
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:49,520
and it is it it is really unnerving i

644
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,000
think

645
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:52,799
you know um if it's extraterrestrial

646
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:54,000
it's unnerving if it's

647
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:56,640
um or exciting whenever you want to look

648
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:57,679
at it or if it's an

649
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:01,360
adversary it's incredibly concerning

650
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,039
but um you know hopefully we're testing

651
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:07,039
things like that and and we could and we

652
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,159
do know

653
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:11,120
that you know we test on the first

654
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,159
before you deploy

655
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:14,080
something that you're testing on your

656
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:15,520
own you know

657
00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:18,880
uh groups and so you have to test things

658
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:21,039
in the field and so could that have been

659
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:24,159
could these could this be a test

660
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:25,679
you know there would be people that

661
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:28,960
would not need to know what's going on

662
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:31,279
and things and i just i don't know i'm

663
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:32,960
just definitely leaning

664
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:35,679
away from the extraterrestrial thing and

665
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,400
again

666
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:38,000
you know when when people are citing

667
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:39,840
anonymous sources typical

668
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,279
that never good at the end of the day

669
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:47,600
and i wanna uh something else that's

670
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:48,880
scary

671
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,000
subject is

672
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:53,840
not only is this increasing in frequency

673
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:55,279
sightings and encounters and everything

674
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:56,960
that you just mentioned

675
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,080
but according to corbell this is and

676
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,679
trust me when i say this guy can keep

677
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:03,279
his mouth shut

678
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:06,400
unlike myself he can keep it shut

679
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:10,480
and this drop is the tip of the spear

680
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:13,440
so there's a lot more coming so i mean

681
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:16,159
we better hope we know what this is at

682
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:16,559
some

683
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:19,600
level or holy hell

684
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:22,480
you know and i would hope that if there

685
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:24,159
was a big disclosure

686
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:26,480
coming that you would be getting that

687
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,600
straight from

688
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,520
the government that you wouldn't be

689
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:31,279
getting it through second-hand

690
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:34,720
sources you know uh like jeremy

691
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:37,440
and co i mean i would this is a serious

692
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,799
enough issue

693
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:41,279
to be coming from i think uh our

694
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:42,559
government

695
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:46,799
if it is in fact extraterrestrial

696
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:49,120
and the whole then that brings up i love

697
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,120
this kind of discussion because

698
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:54,799
as soon as you see something flying in

699
00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:00,149
the average civilian thinks little green

700
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:01,360
men

701
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:04,480
uh watch your behind

702
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:08,320
and uh don't get beamed up well i guess

703
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,960
it depends on who you ask

704
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,880
well it depends it does depend and i

705
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:14,559
hate to say that those things don't

706
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,679
exist but they do

707
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,360
they do i'm not saying they don't exist

708
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:19,279
on some plane of existence

709
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,840
and and time is on our side for this one

710
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,520
because even if you talk like the

711
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:25,520
dimensional aspects which is mainstream

712
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:26,240
now

713
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:28,080
you can you can you can talk your reason

714
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:30,000
around this and it's safe and sound to

715
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:30,960
argue

716
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,799
that that would just be one little tiny

717
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,080
slice of the pie

718
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:35,840
and that there would be a variety of

719
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:37,919
other slices of the pie that are also

720
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:39,919
actively engaged in the phenomenon

721
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:42,559
in their own way shape and form and i

722
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:43,600
think that's kind of what we're

723
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:44,960
discussing here

724
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:47,360
because this seems to be technology

725
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:48,399
mimicking

726
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:54,000
technology in my personal opinion

727
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:57,039
but hey what do i know i'm just speaking

728
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,960
as a fly fishing guide and a jeweler and

729
00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:00,000
that's as far

730
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:01,840
as watching something that i don't know

731
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,440
anything about

732
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:05,440
and making a personal assessment that's

733
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,039
as far as i go

734
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:08,960
above and beyond that i can mow a decent

735
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:10,399
lawn so

736
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:14,720
um i think you know the mimicry

737
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,480
is a really interesting thing we know

738
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,799
that you know there have been

739
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:20,880
different studies that have have been

740
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:22,080
done over the years

741
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:25,279
uh decades about uh

742
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,399
people and their responses to ufos or

743
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:30,000
how it would change their

744
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,399
religious uh viewpoints and different

745
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:34,080
things and so we've gone in and

746
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,159
kind of created and used these

747
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,399
psychological profiles and

748
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:41,039
and things and could that be and we know

749
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,679
when you're

750
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:44,080
looking at psychological warfare you

751
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,360
know what you would do

752
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:47,120
in specific places and what they have

753
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:49,520
done is is take a group of people

754
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:52,720
and their their belief systems and

755
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:53,840
they've used that

756
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:56,559
as kind of almost a weapon to gain

757
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,240
control over the population

758
00:29:01,830 --> 00:29:00,640
and so could that be you know something

759
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,840
if you're mimicking

760
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:03,840
something or if you've seeded an idea

761
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:05,200
into the public

762
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:08,399
uh and you know that this kind of uh

763
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,799
oh hey it's a ufo it's a ufo that that

764
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,559
type of belief is

765
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:15,360
is going to grow i think that that does

766
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:16,880
happen and so

767
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:18,399
there you know like i said there have to

768
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,240
there so many

769
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,480
layers to this and i think you know when

770
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,760
you and i have

771
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,360
looked into skinwalker ranch and the

772
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:27,039
surrounding areas i think that's one of

773
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,320
those prime

774
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,320
places where you do have some sort of

775
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:32,480
psychological operation taking place and

776
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:33,760
ideas have been

777
00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:36,720
seated and then specific people i think

778
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:38,799
specific technologies can be

779
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,279
tested and people are going to jump to

780
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,120
well that was a ufo and so they're not

781
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:44,799
going to look any further into it and

782
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:46,640
it's a great cover

783
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:49,360
so could this again be the case we just

784
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:51,679
you know we'll we will see how things

785
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:55,200
roll out it really depends on who you

786
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:57,200
talk to and i don't claim to know what

787
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,080
quote unquote they are i only have my

788
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:02,080
optimistic assumptions

789
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,360
and i know that they are cutting edge

790
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:07,200
don't kill the messenger here but what's

791
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:08,960
scarier them being

792
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:12,480
extra dimensional non-human aircraft or

793
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:20,389
well i would i would say it's scarier

794
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,200
that

795
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:23,600
it would i hope i mean for me

796
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,799
potentially that it could be an

797
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:25,679
adversary

798
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,720
right but right you know i think

799
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:30,240
i'm the type of person that would like

800
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,000
to to

801
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:34,240
to think that if there is an

802
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:35,440
intelligence

803
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:38,159
here you know i don't necessarily run to

804
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,120
the thought that it's

805
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:41,679
a threat even though we should be aware

806
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:42,399
of that

807
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:45,360
but if you you know look at the work of

808
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:45,919
of

809
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:47,600
people like jacques valet and people

810
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:49,120
that have studied

811
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,320
uh things you know uh and looked at

812
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:53,760
folklore and different things

813
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,039
uh there are allegedly

814
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:59,440
interactions taking place that could be

815
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:00,799
from different dimensions

816
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:04,159
different different things and so

817
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:07,279
are they necessarily you know a threat

818
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:08,880
or is this something that is just

819
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:10,799
coexisting

820
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,159
right are we just are we just seeing

821
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,840
some 747

822
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:18,480
from constant like like the costanza

823
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:19,279
world

824
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,720
or like you know a a reality slightly

825
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:24,399
different from our own but just for

826
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:26,320
moments or a glimpse thereof

827
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,480
and if so why is this around nuclear

828
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,640
installations which again is going to

829
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,880
oops reverse the target but

830
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:37,039
why is this around you know nuclear

831
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:38,000
installations

832
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:41,120
and military facilities of all nations

833
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,470
oh i think there could be two different

834
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:48,399
you know thoughts obviously the one

835
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:50,399
is that there's an advanced civilization

836
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,919
here monitoring what we're doing so we

837
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,840
don't blow ourselves up i think that's

838
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,760
the common thought in the ufo world and

839
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,120
then there's the

840
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:00,240
you know the fact that these could be

841
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:03,519
foreign adversaries monitoring our

842
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:06,640
capabilities or it could be us trying to

843
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:07,279
protect

844
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:14,470
okay and i'm gonna go out on a limb on

845
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:16,399
this one erica because you know people

846
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:17,360
are gonna want to go

847
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,320
out on these crazy limbs and it's not

848
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:22,320
gonna be the crazy reptilian not that i

849
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:22,720
don't

850
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:24,799
agree with some like oh yes there is the

851
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:26,640
reptilian brain and we could get into

852
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,200
that discussion however

853
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,880
and bloodlines but i'm not going to do

854
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:33,039
that this is more about

855
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,919
uh in my opinion where you're going it's

856
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:37,120
a dimensionality

857
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:43,279
military purposes or an assailant

858
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:46,000
i love that word an assailant of some

859
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:47,039
sort

860
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,720
you know that we were not ready for

861
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:52,880
what are we doing yeah yeah i i don't

862
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:54,399
know i mean it's all

863
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:57,919
it is all very curious and i think

864
00:33:01,269 --> 00:33:00,640
you know um just to see the way people

865
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:01,279
react

866
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,720
to some of these things that are being

867
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:04,640
put forward is interesting in and of

868
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:06,080
itself

869
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:09,840
so who who knows and it's again

870
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,159
for me personally because i've had my

871
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:13,919
own personal experiences i know

872
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:17,519
you as well and i think i

873
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:20,960
you know i the more i look to

874
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:23,360
the outside to find answers the less

875
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,000
connected i

876
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:27,120
am with what i really feel happened if

877
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:28,000
that makes

878
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:31,039
sense and so i just i don't know i want

879
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:32,480
to go off a little tangent here and just

880
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:34,559
encourage people when they're having

881
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:37,760
when they have experiences to not turn

882
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:45,750
youtube university is very it's kind of

883
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:46,240
like

884
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:50,159
gives you just enough rope to hang

885
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:52,000
yourself maybe

886
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:53,600
[Music]

887
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:55,919
and i don't want to get down this path

888
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:56,640
but some are

889
00:34:02,070 --> 00:33:59,760
arguing that this is oh my gosh

890
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:02,080
uh you know it's a triangle it's a

891
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:03,120
pyramid

892
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:05,840
the symbolism through the disclosure no

893
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:08,079
matter how you see it this is going to

894
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:11,679
lead to well you know that these craft

895
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:12,320
were seen

896
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:15,520
by everybody from you know

897
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:19,280
the pharaohs through the bible

898
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:22,560
you know the usa now uh

899
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:25,119
gosh the romans the judeans they goes on

900
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:26,560
and on the greeks

901
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,839
and is this are we dealing

902
00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:32,000
and because this comes up believe it or

903
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,240
not erica this comes up

904
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:37,520
99.9999 percent of the time

905
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:40,960
with gods with a small g and what is a

906
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:49,109
i don't know

907
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:52,960
that keep me up at night this is why i

908
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,159
ask these questions

909
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,480
because you hear it all the time are we

910
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,800
dealing with gods with a small g

911
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,480
you start looking at the word g

912
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:02,880
governments um

913
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:05,520
it's uh anyway i don't know maybe that's

914
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:06,720
just a lucky guess

915
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:09,920
what do i personally think they are i

916
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,079
well i'm i'm just gonna fire out of the

917
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:14,160
barrel and it isn't

918
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:18,400
just me i've talked to people who are

919
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,160
veterans and soldiers

920
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:23,680
and many government types because i

921
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:25,599
think they're a good way to

922
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:28,160
gauge my analysis of the the footage i

923
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:30,480
just kind of said hey what would you do

924
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,800
and you know engage is what they would

925
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:34,000
say you know engage

926
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,880
what the f is that so from an

927
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:38,240
unclassified and

928
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:41,119
absolutely civilian perspective you know

929
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,800
that eye to an eye mentality

930
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:44,880
the military usually has in defense of

931
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:52,390
uh capabilities i would say that they're

932
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,440
actively jammed in some way their radar

933
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:56,960
or maybe their defense systems were

934
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:58,880
jammed or everything else

935
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,359
i don't know so maybe it was a test i i

936
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,920
just don't know

937
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:06,480
yeah i don't i i think it is interesting

938
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:08,000
and i want to just go back to

939
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:10,720
um you know something that dave beatty

940
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,200
if you

941
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:13,599
uh follow him i really like dave a lot

942
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:15,040
he's been on my show several times but

943
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:15,760
he

944
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,160
spoken

945
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:30,720
to different uh witnesses and they said

946
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:31,200
that there

947
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,920
they were not pyramids and that they're

948
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:35,359
thinking that it might be

949
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:39,520
an optical illusion or a glare and so

950
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:41,599
again it's like to jump to that you know

951
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:43,359
the pyramid and where did the pyramid

952
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,560
come from i think jeremy

953
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,160
corbell was the first person to start

954
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,160
using that and really pushing

955
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:50,400
that and so again i just caution people

956
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,200
to

957
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:53,280
you know not go down because you can go

958
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:54,960
down all sorts of roads that aren't

959
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:56,320
necessarily

960
00:37:02,630 --> 00:36:59,520
factual with this

961
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,640
as much fun as it is it's so much fun

962
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:04,800
it is a blast and it's so much fun

963
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:06,960
because everybody is involved no matter

964
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:08,240
who they are what they are then when

965
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,119
they see

966
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:11,119
a quote-unquote pyramid flying in the

967
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:12,800
sky it's fun it's mainstream

968
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:16,880
and it's uap phenomenon but it

969
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:21,280
i at first i saw the illusion

970
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:24,880
in my opinion of what appeared to be

971
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:28,560
a pyramid transposing itself or randomly

972
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:32,079
uh randomly flying through like it its

973
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:34,560
axis had been manipulated it was just

974
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:37,440
spinning that's when i first saw my mind

975
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:38,880
first saw that

976
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:41,040
and then under further analysis under

977
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,960
larger and larger screens i went from a

978
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:44,560
cell phone to a laptop

979
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,320
to like my you know whatever 65

980
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,119
inch screen is the highest i went but i

981
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:53,200
started to notice that it does look like

982
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,040
a series of lights

983
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,920
three that are flashing in unison and

984
00:38:02,950 --> 00:37:59,040
create

985
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:02,960
maybe some kind of

986
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:06,320
uh uh it it looks like it's all flashing

987
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:07,520
at the same time

988
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:11,040
but it appears to be in my opinion led

989
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:14,560
and maybe they're just you know what i

990
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:16,000
mean like maybe the light was just

991
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:19,760
on and the flashing was through the

992
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,320
as this so often happens the actual

993
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,839
filming of the object

994
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,520
you know much like you film like modern

995
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:27,040
headlights and it flashes

996
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,400
randomly and you're like whoa what's

997
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:30,079
that and that's just through your cell

998
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:30,480
phone

999
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:33,760
again i don't even know the optics we're

1000
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,870
yeah no it if there's lots of questions

1001
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,839
but to me

1002
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,599
you know when when you start looking at

1003
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:43,280
it it definitely looks a little bit

1004
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,480
doesn't look as as out of uh

1005
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:49,040
this world as you know you could be told

1006
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:50,800
that it is and so you just

1007
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:52,640
have to like you do put things through

1008
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,040
the paces and then call in

1009
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,320
people who are you know experts in in

1010
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:00,720
things like this and have them weigh in

1011
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:01,680
and then make

1012
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:04,640
a determination based on on not only

1013
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:05,359
that but

1014
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:08,400
the you know our witnesses uh coming

1015
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,040
forward

1016
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,960
using their names why wouldn't they use

1017
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:12,880
their names it seems

1018
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:15,119
kind of interesting to me in this regard

1019
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:16,640
that they wouldn't be

1020
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:19,680
you know uh but

1021
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,400
well who knows it could be a variety of

1022
00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:24,079
reasons we don't know and that's

1023
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,680
the dangerous part of this i don't want

1024
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:27,119
to make assumptions because

1025
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,520
i did hear electro optic and sensor data

1026
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:33,760
so was this filmed by somebody with his

1027
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,920
cell phone and this thing was flashing

1028
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,920
or was this filmed by a weapons defense

1029
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:39,440
system that mustered up enough

1030
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:41,440
technology to just

1031
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:44,320
catch a few you know enough of it to

1032
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,760
figure out what it is

1033
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,359
you know was it flashing was it not

1034
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:49,280
we're not getting a lot of info

1035
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:52,480
i've reached out and i'm it's it is it's

1036
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:55,680
hard because i know he's super busy and

1037
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:57,520
you know a lot of this stuff you don't

1038
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,520
want to kill the messenger and we don't

1039
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:01,040
know who the messenger is we don't know

1040
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,720
what or who filmed this but if if that

1041
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,000
was taken

1042
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:08,880
with you know something other than a

1043
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,680
cell phone camera or you know

1044
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:13,760
a camera as you say then there would be

1045
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:15,119
a huge

1046
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,880
process that this would have to go

1047
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:19,040
through to me it would be very unlikely

1048
00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:20,720
in a situation like this

1049
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,839
that they would be releasing that

1050
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:24,720
footage so if he did release that

1051
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:25,760
footage then

1052
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,760
you would think that the person that

1053
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,839
released it there there would be an

1054
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:31,920
investigation

1055
00:40:38,589 --> 00:40:35,680
about that so right

1056
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,599
and as far as i can tell it is

1057
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,000
unclassified

1058
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,920
which is mind-blowing and i could be

1059
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,240
wrong jeremy don't kill me but

1060
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:45,920
don't kill messenger on this one i'll

1061
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:48,319
i'll take the same defense he does

1062
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,000
this if they're okay

1063
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:55,359
it it this technology is cool it's very

1064
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:56,000
cool i

1065
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,520
doubt it's manned and

1066
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:01,440
the fact that it can actively jam

1067
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,560
possibly

1068
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:05,440
by implication our radar and defense

1069
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:08,079
systems

1070
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:11,280
that at least initially if my assumption

1071
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:12,240
is correct

1072
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:16,160
and it's just one of those hey dude

1073
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:18,079
you sh you know later on they're like

1074
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:19,280
hey you shouldn't have pulled out your

1075
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:20,400
cell phone but

1076
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:24,000
it's kind of a cool flex at a cool time

1077
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,160
when maybe these other countries are

1078
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:28,160
getting too close

1079
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:31,280
it's kind of what we did with the moon

1080
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:35,680
and it's sort of ah i hate to say it

1081
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,400
yeah but it it's you know it's building

1082
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,240
that big obelisk and saying look mine's

1083
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:42,240
bigger than yours can you do this

1084
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:46,319
and i'm hoping it's that because if it's

1085
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:47,200
not that

1086
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,710
yeah i i agree and i mean it

1087
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:58,640
you know two you have to ask if somebody

1088
00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:00,800
is filming you know like i said and i

1089
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:01,920
think this is an important point if

1090
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:03,359
somebody's filming

1091
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:06,480
something like this and and and it's it

1092
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,800
is

1093
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,640
unclassified and that would mean maybe

1094
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:10,560
it's on as big a deal as we think

1095
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,960
maybe just throwing that out there or

1096
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:13,920
you know i mean if

1097
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:17,200
if people are leaking things

1098
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:20,640
and potentially putting our

1099
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,599
our troops our in our country in in

1100
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:25,760
danger then that should be

1101
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:27,680
something you know that it should be

1102
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,040
addressed as well

1103
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,119
you know so i mean i think there's some

1104
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:33,040
serious questions that all of this

1105
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,400
raise and

1106
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:38,480
so but nobody ever seems to talk about

1107
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:39,440
things like that

1108
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,280
they are because it is and

1109
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,040
anyway there's a good portion of it

1110
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:47,520
that's legitimately required because

1111
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:49,440
they're taking a good portion of

1112
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,720
our funds if possibly it's the

1113
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:53,839
assumption that i'm

1114
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:56,960
hoping to god it is they're taking a

1115
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:58,000
great portion of our funds

1116
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,280
creating these things and to

1117
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,319
i understand the flex if it's the flex

1118
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:06,720
and it's for everybody's safety

1119
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,960
however if this is a breach of security

1120
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:10,800
defense systems

1121
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:13,520
and i'm with you that we're discussing

1122
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:14,480
this

1123
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,760
and we're getting and you know i

1124
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:19,760
well just imagine if this was coming

1125
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:21,119
through it

1126
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:25,280
the the avenue is interesting

1127
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:28,160
it makes me wonder you know uh is the

1128
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:29,040
pentagon

1129
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,720
like you said is it not as big a deal as

1130
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,400
we think it is are they

1131
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,800
in fact adversarial drones and this is

1132
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:36,319
just kind of like a joke like yeah we

1133
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,079
caught you on our cell phones

1134
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:41,200
you know that's kind of funny um but

1135
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,200
i don't know i i don't know how to look

1136
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:45,760
at this this is either a really big deal

1137
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:48,240
or which i it it is because it's

1138
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:49,920
gathered mainstream

1139
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:52,880
opinion but is this a big deal or i

1140
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:53,440
don't know

1141
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:55,280
it there's so many different ideas

1142
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:56,880
thinking and even theories at times

1143
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,560
about these things

1144
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,800
and you know bringing to the table

1145
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:02,000
viewpoints that

1146
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:05,599
at least open my mind to

1147
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:13,030
i i would think given like i say some of

1148
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:14,319
the technologies that they're

1149
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:18,079
testing you know um i it very well

1150
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:21,680
um could be and so i think we just

1151
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:23,280
don't know what i mean what better way

1152
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,720
you know it's a great cover

1153
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:27,440
story if it you know to use the ufo

1154
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:30,079
thing so we're not creating a huge panic

1155
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:34,400
um but it's you know it i

1156
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,160
i think it's all very curious and again

1157
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,400
like i said i if if there is going to be

1158
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:41,920
a disclosure

1159
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:44,240
about this i would much prefer it came

1160
00:44:48,270 --> 00:44:45,200
from

1161
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:48,280
somebody who was a a high-ranking

1162
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:49,440
official

1163
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:52,560
um you know instead of somebody who is

1164
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:56,400
is you know making a living

1165
00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:58,960
off the ufo entertainment aspect of

1166
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:00,640
things

1167
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:03,680
well and just being peripheral to this

1168
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,079
all

1169
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:06,960
as you know i can only i can only talk

1170
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:09,040
from a personal and peripheral

1171
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,560
aspect and it's actually coincidentally

1172
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:14,079
and synchronistically the same

1173
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,839
aspect through which i know this

1174
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:17,119
individual

1175
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:20,720
but the just being a civilian and having

1176
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,079
any and all uh touch

1177
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:25,920
with the strangeness the high

1178
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:29,040
strangeness of you in a basin so

1179
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,319
when you're in the uinta base and you

1180
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:32,400
get this high strangeness feeling

1181
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:35,359
sometimes if if you're in certain areas

1182
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,000
and

1183
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:38,480
i know you've felt it i felt it well lo

1184
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:39,359
and behold

1185
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,760
if you stick around and you keep

1186
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:43,520
sniffing around

1187
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:46,079
you find that there are deeper levels to

1188
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:47,040
this that you start

1189
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:50,960
worrying about things like your safety

1190
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,079
and these are things that as a

1191
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:56,880
united states civilian and american we

1192
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:58,800
should not have to worry about

1193
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:01,920
we should be able to sniff around at our

1194
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:02,480
own

1195
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,599
leisure and disclosure and and disclose

1196
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:06,800
whatever we sniff

1197
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:10,720
but that's you know unfortunately

1198
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,200
just speaking from myself and being a

1199
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:15,119
very peripheral

1200
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:17,839
player to all of this i understand that

1201
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,240
there's

1202
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:21,359
deeper parts to this that like you said

1203
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:22,319
don't apply to me

1204
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:23,839
like there's a point where i have to

1205
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,240
quit sniffing or there could be

1206
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:30,880
for lack of a better word consequences

1207
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,079
is that is that a safe word

1208
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:37,040
well i mean i definitely you know i mean

1209
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:37,599
you

1210
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,079
the the ufo community or people that

1211
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:42,480
that sniff around and get into

1212
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,040
you know find out maybe too much that i

1213
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:47,040
mean you know people have been

1214
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,720
visited by people saying hey knock it

1215
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:50,240
off you know you gotta

1216
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:53,520
uh maybe pull back a little bit here and

1217
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:56,160
and things and that is you know that's

1218
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:56,800
that is

1219
00:47:03,190 --> 00:46:59,839
it's because there are things that we

1220
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,200
don't have the capacity to know and

1221
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:05,280
as for our own safety that's probably

1222
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:06,400
just fine

1223
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:07,760
um if you know what i mean you know what

1224
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:10,000
i mean images it's

1225
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,520
and as much as i would like to say we

1226
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,520
should have a completely

1227
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:15,280
open and transparent which i think we

1228
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,560
should be

1229
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,640
transparent with things but when it

1230
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,319
comes to

1231
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,000
to national security i don't know if

1232
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:24,000
that is something that that

1233
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:27,440
is you know we should be we we can't be

1234
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:30,720
transparent when it comes to that

1235
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:33,119
you can't show all your hands to an

1236
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:35,040
adversary

1237
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,200
that's right because we don't know what

1238
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,960
we're dealing with and i i've talked

1239
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:40,480
with people like i said

1240
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:43,680
peripherally that are like yeah i've

1241
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:44,000
seen

1242
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:48,559
technology that other nations have

1243
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,160
that are freaking really cool

1244
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:55,200
and um that's as far as i can go with

1245
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:56,000
that

1246
00:48:01,990 --> 00:47:59,599
really cool

1247
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:02,000
because that's all i heard and you know

1248
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:02,960
and

1249
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:06,800
most

1250
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:09,040
citizens of the united states do have is

1251
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:10,880
we just assume

1252
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:13,359
that we are at the top of the heap and

1253
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:14,640
that nothing can get

1254
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,000
even close to us because we

1255
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:20,720
really maybe we just really enjoy the

1256
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:21,200
bread

1257
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:25,760
and circus at the table we um

1258
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:28,400
you know it's america and then you know

1259
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:29,599
bleep yeah

1260
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,880
and it's just this is this

1261
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,200
this is it for lack of a better word

1262
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:38,800
this has become the new pledge of

1263
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:39,680
allegiance

1264
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:43,440
and uh is this reality

1265
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:46,319
right i mean and i think that we can see

1266
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,880
by

1267
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:48,640
some of the advancements that you know

1268
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,359
other countries are making it it's

1269
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:53,839
you know yeah we we i don't know if i

1270
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:55,040
would like to think that we are

1271
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:58,480
on top of the heap um let's pray on that

1272
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,280
one

1273
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:02,160
um because i'm like you it's you know

1274
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:03,760
i'm proud to be

1275
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:07,200
from america i love my country and i i

1276
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:08,800
appreciate the men and women who

1277
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:09,680
sacrifice

1278
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:13,520
and well-being

1279
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:16,559
and democracy and things and and so but

1280
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:18,960
it is definitely

1281
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,240
uh you know we we have to be aware that

1282
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,319
yeah we aren't always the

1283
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:26,559
the top and it this is there's so much

1284
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:28,000
like i said going on behind the scenes

1285
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,280
even just some of the

1286
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,040
you know the hacking and things that

1287
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:32,800
we've seen and the use of

1288
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:35,040
social media to promote you know

1289
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:37,040
propaganda

1290
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,720
from different countries has been very

1291
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:40,160
interesting especially

1292
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:43,680
how that has also affected the ufo world

1293
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:47,920
oh yeah oh yeah the the the propaganda

1294
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:50,960
and the drone aspect the russians are on

1295
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,440
to it

1296
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:53,760
and i hate i probably shouldn't say that

1297
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:55,200
for youtube but

1298
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,680
they're onto it and it's so cool they're

1299
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,520
they're so about remote viewing our

1300
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:01,680
technology that i follow pages that

1301
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:02,160
follow

1302
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:05,200
things like that and it's like what are

1303
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,400
either they're totally out of their

1304
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:08,800
minds or the things that we are now

1305
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:10,480
considering drones

1306
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:13,920
aliens interdimensional e.t etc

1307
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:17,040
or legitimately unidentified may have

1308
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:17,359
not

1309
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,319
ever been in the words of others you

1310
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,480
know technology that no nation on earth

1311
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:24,079
has ever displayed

1312
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,079
but may in fact be just that a display

1313
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:30,240
no nation on earth has ever displayed

1314
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:33,119
and who is typically the forerunner

1315
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,960
forefront leaker uh oops what was that

1316
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:38,319
an sr

1317
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:41,440
72 blackbird just kidding and

1318
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:44,640
you know it's it's reminiscent

1319
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,760
and if that's the case then everybody

1320
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,040
can cool their jets

1321
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,079
but if not then these are

1322
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,079
understandably technology we need to be

1323
00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:00,230
right and i you know i mean it's

1324
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:01,920
either way but again we've got to just

1325
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:04,240
you know stay as grounded i think as we

1326
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,559
can

1327
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:07,440
and to you know ask the important

1328
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,559
questions and not

1329
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,880
believe things because we want to

1330
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:12,640
believe or because there's

1331
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:14,720
you know a specific spokesperson or

1332
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:15,839
people that are

1333
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:19,440
promoting um things uh and

1334
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:22,079
you know like i i think for me i found

1335
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,599
because i do believe there's a genuine

1336
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:25,440
phenomenon i think this is

1337
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:28,160
it's it's fascinating but i i tend to

1338
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:28,880
turn away

1339
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:31,599
from you know what is going on in in

1340
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,079
america because it's just so many

1341
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:36,880
uh red herrings going on and i think

1342
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:37,680
that ends up

1343
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,960
distracting us because we're sitting

1344
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:41,200
around arguing about you know whether

1345
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:42,960
this was a triangle

1346
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:46,400
ufo or you know what what you know abc

1347
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,800
and d

1348
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:49,119
is when potentially there are things

1349
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:50,400
going on

1350
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,640
uh in different areas and we're not

1351
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:54,319
we're not paying attention to that

1352
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,000
so i think you know what i mean

1353
00:52:02,069 --> 00:51:59,920
oh i totally know what you mean once

1354
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:02,079
defense is involved the discussion gets

1355
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:02,640
hairy

1356
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:05,200
and i was just you know when we say

1357
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,920
thank you

1358
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:08,240
for your service to as you mentioned the

1359
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:08,960
military

1360
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:11,839
men and women you know we have no idea

1361
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:12,960
what they put up with

1362
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,480
i am i have to kind of somewhat

1363
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,720
argue with my wife about vaccinations

1364
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,119
with our kids for example

1365
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:23,520
and not really arguments we actually see

1366
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:24,559
pretty eye to eye

1367
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:28,400
but at the same time you consider

1368
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:30,839
i i think i was reading it's like a

1369
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:32,559
hundred

1370
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:35,760
compared to 72 required

1371
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:39,920
72 injections i believe are military

1372
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:44,640
let me see here no wait no 191 i'm sorry

1373
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:48,240
181 or 191 different shots

1374
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:49,839
and the majority of these they don't

1375
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:52,000
know what they're for and

1376
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:59,030
is it part of a test yeah that is

1377
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:02,880
definitely interesting but

1378
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:04,400
you know it makes you wonder is it part

1379
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:07,200
of a test is it part of possible tests

1380
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:10,319
military men and women maybe succumb and

1381
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:11,680
and that's the thing you sign up for

1382
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:12,960
it's kind of a tough

1383
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:16,240
tough thing to argue well and i think

1384
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:16,559
there

1385
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:19,520
you know i mean people that genuinely

1386
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:20,400
you know i mean

1387
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:23,119
that are that they've realized this and

1388
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:24,400
that is their what they've

1389
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:27,680
agreed to do and and for the name of you

1390
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,079
know

1391
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,319
like i said our democracy and and our

1392
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,920
country and

1393
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:33,520
freedoms and things and so that is

1394
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:35,440
really that's such a

1395
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:38,480
an incredible thing uh to do

1396
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:41,520
as a human being it's pretty cool it is

1397
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:42,480
pretty cool

1398
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,200
and um but yeah it's a lot bigger than a

1399
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:46,800
lot of people because i

1400
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:50,000
i talk to well just people that i know

1401
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,839
that were involved with i i don't know

1402
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:53,680
what i can say

1403
00:53:59,829 --> 00:53:57,280
but you know some of the

1404
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,839
programs that they otherwise thought

1405
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:00,960
were just

1406
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:03,280
well i'll give the generalization of

1407
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,359
this particular

1408
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:08,079
they thought it was just a general hey

1409
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:09,760
i'm on a ship

1410
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:13,119
i'm just out here cooking meals for all

1411
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,240
these soldiers

1412
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:17,280
who are watching for something and this

1413
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,079
doesn't sound like a long list

1414
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:22,240
you know and he went into you know

1415
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:23,359
what's going on

1416
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:25,440
from the service department of an aspect

1417
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:28,720
of things come to find out the entire

1418
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:32,480
thing was they were

1419
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:35,920
the they were being tested on uh

1420
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:45,030
i'll just say mediums and

1421
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,799
this series of uh damage

1422
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,480
that took place to the mechanical parts

1423
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:52,079
of the ship of the vehicle

1424
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:55,440
and to the people on board was very

1425
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:01,670
it took most of the people have died

1426
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:03,280
that were on that ship and this person

1427
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:05,040
just barely got

1428
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,720
a severance check so it's one of those

1429
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:10,480
things that kind of pisses you off

1430
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:16,630
well we've we have seen some interesting

1431
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:17,280
things

1432
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:19,359
uh take place with regard to that and

1433
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:21,760
human testing and

1434
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:25,119
um so it's uh

1435
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:26,960
and dugway you know as you and i both

1436
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:29,520
know uh that there have been lots of

1437
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,760
interesting things over the decades

1438
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,599
frightening things in my opinion over

1439
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:35,359
the decades that have taken place

1440
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:38,960
there with regards to testing um

1441
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:42,160
on you know people but yeah there's a

1442
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:43,760
lot of things to think about and then

1443
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:47,040
you know i i throw in some of this

1444
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:49,599
type of thing now the douglas which

1445
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:50,319
again

1446
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:51,520
you know like i said up in the area of

1447
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:53,839
skinwalker ranch i mean who knows what

1448
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:57,119
would be going on up there

1449
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:00,240
now the dugway thing just to clarify

1450
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:03,280
that was proven correct like beyond a

1451
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,950
fascinating i mean just the fact that

1452
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:10,480
that was proven

1453
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:13,760
beyond a reasonable doubt is pretty huge

1454
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:18,079
because if i'm assuming that this would

1455
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:18,400
be

1456
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,799
a subcontractor of some sort who thought

1457
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:22,079
they had free reign

1458
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:25,119
over not just the acreage they were

1459
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:28,319
leasing but life in general within that

1460
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:29,359
acreage

1461
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:35,670
well it's an interesting place and i

1462
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:38,799
definitely you know encourage

1463
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:41,280
people to look at the history and some

1464
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,319
of the things that they've

1465
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,200
tested and and in fact they're still

1466
00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:46,960
doing open-air testing

1467
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:50,079
in that area come on things so

1468
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,599
it's every once in a while you hear a

1469
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:54,160
little blurb about it but

1470
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:57,599
again um you know that's

1471
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,799
what it's it's uh yeah it's that's an

1472
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:01,920
interesting topic

1473
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:03,760
that way is is definitely not a place to

1474
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,000
want to go hang out on the borders

1475
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:08,000
of because you just don't know what

1476
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:14,549
it's a place i to be honest you know in

1477
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,440
all fairness i

1478
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:18,480
sadly took previous dates

1479
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:21,440
and in retrospect probably a really bad

1480
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:22,559
idea

1481
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:26,480
um that is an area that yeah we know for

1482
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:27,839
a fact there's fallout

1483
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,200
of well god knows what and

1484
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,599
um it sure it's fascinating you'll

1485
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:35,359
probably see something that you haven't

1486
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:35,760
seen

1487
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:38,880
before but is there a consequence to

1488
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,440
that

1489
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:41,280
and i think there may be something along

1490
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:44,000
the same lines to any area

1491
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:46,720
that you might see something you may not

1492
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:47,599
otherwise

1493
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:51,280
see is that fair to say yeah i mean we

1494
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:53,839
see you know with regard to skinwalker

1495
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:55,599
ranch you know we've got

1496
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:58,640
uh people that are allegedly being uh

1497
00:58:02,069 --> 00:58:00,319
you know that are suffering radiation

1498
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:02,079
burns and severe

1499
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:05,280
injuries and things and so definitely

1500
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,160
would not just i mean i would you know

1501
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:10,079
rethink

1502
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,599
going up and spending a lot of time in

1503
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:13,200
that area you know

1504
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:17,280
as well too from from the safety aspect

1505
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:20,319
yes and i can't agree more when

1506
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:23,920
people um arguably i'm not i own it

1507
00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:25,520
oh yes i'll just say it i own an

1508
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,319
interest in a small sliver

1509
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:30,880
of the uintah basin and when people want

1510
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,000
to go up for

1511
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:34,079
reasons that are paranormal quote

1512
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:35,119
unquote

1513
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:37,440
i make them sign something like a waiver

1514
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:38,880
of liability

1515
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:42,000
and it seems drastic but it really isn't

1516
00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:42,400
because

1517
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:45,440
anywhere you are in the uintah basin

1518
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:48,640
if you are looking for something that

1519
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,799
shouldn't be there you might just find

1520
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:53,040
it am i right

1521
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:54,880
well yeah i think too there's a lot of

1522
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:56,319
you know i mean who knows what

1523
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:59,359
uh goes on with you know i mean i i

1524
00:59:03,589 --> 00:59:00,160
think that

1525
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,599
i think there's it is interesting to to

1526
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,760
uh go to some of the cemeteries you know

1527
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:07,440
in the area and to see that

1528
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:08,880
there are a lot of younger people

1529
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,480
passing away um

1530
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:12,240
we know that there was an article by

1531
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:14,079
rolling stone magazine

1532
00:59:17,829 --> 00:59:15,520
a couple years ago about all the

1533
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:17,839
stillbirths that were

1534
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:19,920
seen in vernal and different things and

1535
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:21,280
so there might be

1536
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:24,960
things due to some of the uh

1537
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:27,520
the industry in the area that could be

1538
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:28,720
affecting health and

1539
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:31,839
and different things but

1540
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:34,559
it is you know like with skinwalker and

1541
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:34,960
and

1542
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:37,760
them saying on the new series that there

1543
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,319
is

1544
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:40,400
people are high levels of radiation

1545
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:41,680
dangerously high

1546
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:43,920
levels of radiation and that definitely

1547
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:44,720
is

1548
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,000
a red flag and you would hope that the

1549
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:50,000
the right people have been informed and

1550
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:51,280
they've come in uh

1551
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:54,720
to do checks on that

1552
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,839
yes and i don't gosh i just don't even

1553
01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:59,119
know i'm getting too old i don't know

1554
01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:00,559
what i can and can't say anymore and

1555
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:02,240
this is why i'm in the periphery

1556
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:06,079
forever eternally but i will say this

1557
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:07,920
from my understanding there's many

1558
01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:10,480
people who just will not return to the

1559
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:11,599
uinta basin

1560
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,559
and i as i get older i'm one of those

1561
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:15,920
people who returns less

1562
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,880
and less it seems that there are

1563
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:20,400
physical

1564
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:24,160
and possibly i don't even want to say

1565
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:25,440
the word

1566
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:29,040
but uh there's consequences

1567
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,559
and um you know

1568
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:34,640
is it worth it it's really cool to see

1569
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,400
something that shouldn't be there

1570
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:38,160
you know but when you have flying lights

1571
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:40,000
in the sky that are affecting

1572
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:41,520
i'm and i'm going out on a limb here

1573
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:44,160
erica but from what you just disclosed

1574
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:45,920
flying lights in the sky i think the

1575
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:47,680
assumption is

1576
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:50,960
are somehow affecting you know

1577
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:52,960
stillbirths on the ground you know at

1578
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:57,119
that saying as above so below

1579
01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:58,720
you know i will say that it is

1580
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:00,559
interesting and i always

1581
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:04,000
go to um norway because i was lucky

1582
01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:05,920
enough to go over to hashtalland

1583
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:08,960
there where they've conducted a 35

1584
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:12,319
plus year study of anomalous light

1585
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:13,119
phenomenon

1586
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:16,640
which it is this is the most

1587
01:01:23,109 --> 01:01:20,160
studied area in the world uh and

1588
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:23,119
you know it is it's been a very it's

1589
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:24,880
fascinating and it's really cool to

1590
01:01:28,870 --> 01:01:25,839
watch to be

1591
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:28,880
to right next to these scientists the

1592
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:31,440
leading scientists from europe and

1593
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:33,200
they're very transparent

1594
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:34,480
about the data you know they have a

1595
01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:35,839
website where they're putting things

1596
01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:38,160
forward constantly

1597
01:01:44,549 --> 01:01:41,359
yes i agree and over there

1598
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:44,559
you know nobody has been hurt nobody has

1599
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:46,640
had radiation burns

1600
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,480
no one is getting sick and dying of

1601
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:50,240
cancer

1602
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,200
and so why would that be you know why

1603
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:54,960
would people be getting so sick over

1604
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:55,440
here

1605
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:58,559
and is that potentially something that

1606
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:59,680
would be

1607
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:01,200
more down to have a down to earth

1608
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:03,839
explanation

1609
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:06,400
well it is so hard to not go down these

1610
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:07,520
rabbit holes

1611
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,319
but no matter what opinions are when

1612
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:12,240
things flying in the sky are affecting

1613
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:12,960
things

1614
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:15,520
on the ground that should be a really

1615
01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:18,160
big red flag that this is important

1616
01:02:22,710 --> 01:02:21,039
and uh sadly the majority of the

1617
01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:22,720
population could care less

1618
01:02:26,549 --> 01:02:24,079
i mean they see something flying in the

1619
01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:26,559
sky they say that's cool just

1620
01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:30,079
crazy for instance middle of the day i'm

1621
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:32,799
in uh in a swimming pool with my

1622
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:33,599
mother-in-law

1623
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:36,160
some other people other family members

1624
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:37,359
etc

1625
01:02:41,829 --> 01:02:40,799
and i see some stuff i see like three

1626
01:02:43,829 --> 01:02:41,839
lights in the sky

1627
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,839
middle of the day and so i'm like okay i

1628
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:45,520
got seven people around me i'm just

1629
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:46,480
going for it

1630
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,480
so i point them out i say look at these

1631
01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:49,920
what do you think

1632
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:52,640
and they're looking at them and they're

1633
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:54,079
looking at them

1634
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:55,359
and they're moving around and they're

1635
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:57,680
mixing around and they're in plain view

1636
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:58,400
and

1637
01:03:01,750 --> 01:03:01,119
then just as clearly as they were there

1638
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,760
and i know

1639
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:03,599
you've seen things similar they're gone

1640
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:05,920
so i authentically believe in the

1641
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:07,920
authentic

1642
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:12,000
uh phenomena but

1643
01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:14,319
there's so many impostors and mimics we

1644
01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:15,440
may never know

1645
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:16,960
especially with these drones and

1646
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:18,799
everything else defense systems i don't

1647
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:19,760
even know anymore

1648
01:03:25,109 --> 01:03:22,880
but erica like from let's get into

1649
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:25,119
uh where our listeners can keep track of

1650
01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:27,359
you and ufo classified

1651
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:29,760
and at least in my opinion have a pulse

1652
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:30,880
of what's going on

1653
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:35,680
uh on the broader spectrum of uh ufos

1654
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:38,400
yeah thank you i so i do a radio show

1655
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:39,440
every friday night

1656
01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:42,400
i i broadcast on spreaker and you can

1657
01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:44,240
find on itunes and

1658
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:45,520
and different places where you find

1659
01:03:50,029 --> 01:03:47,520
podcasts and it uh

1660
01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:50,039
it's ufo classified you can go to

1661
01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:51,839
ufoclassified.com to learn more about

1662
01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:52,960
the show

1663
01:03:57,829 --> 01:03:56,240
and or erica lukes.com and

1664
01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:57,839
then you can find me sometimes on

1665
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:59,680
twitter and oh just need to get better

1666
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:01,119
about that but

1667
01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:04,160
i'm always you know i mean i i love

1668
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,720
this subject i genuinely think there is

1669
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,640
something that we need to be

1670
01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:10,559
researching and paying attention to and

1671
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:12,400
we need to create a

1672
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:15,839
safe space where we're doing that and

1673
01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:18,799
and and like i said it's just please you

1674
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:20,000
know look at look at

1675
01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:22,000
all the information and and don't be

1676
01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:23,440
afraid to ask

1677
01:04:28,150 --> 01:04:25,200
critical questions because in this

1678
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,160
subject there's there is a need to be

1679
01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:30,480
to have both both feet on the ground i

1680
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:32,160
think because we've had so much

1681
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:34,400
disinformation and missing information

1682
01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:37,200
since the late 40s

1683
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:40,160
a lot of wild stuff and we're talking

1684
01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:41,920
about the same thing everyone's talking

1685
01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:42,400
about

1686
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:44,720
definitely keep in touch with ufo

1687
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:46,720
classified and erica luke's

1688
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:48,960
erica seems far too long every time we

1689
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:50,640
touch base and i hope we touch base more

1690
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:51,119
often

1691
01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:54,400
take care until next time you too thanks

1692
01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:57,440
erica luke's ufo classified you can't go

1693
01:05:01,589 --> 01:04:58,079
wrong

1694
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:01,599
she's attacking ufos and uaps in a way

1695
01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:02,160
that no

1696
01:05:06,390 --> 01:05:05,119
other woman is check it out she's got

1697
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,400
quite the following

1698
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:08,160
and she's not scared to ruffle a few

1699
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:10,160
feathers whether or not

1700
01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:12,880
those feathers who those feathers belong

1701
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:14,000
to is beyond

1702
01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:17,200
my pagrant a question i really wanted to

1703
01:05:19,990 --> 01:05:18,319
ask erica

1704
01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:20,000
is whether there was a spiritual

1705
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:22,559
component to all of this but

1706
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:25,520
i didn't do it i was a coward and next

1707
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:26,799
time i will ask her

1708
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:29,520
because it is a component of the puzzle

1709
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:31,440
that i think is very important

1710
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:34,319
but i'm not exactly sure it is important

1711
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:36,400
to all those involved so

1712
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:38,799
um maybe i'm on one of those crazies but

1713
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:40,880
maybe it's a component that is important

1714
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:42,000
to me

1715
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:44,079
and it is not an actual component i

1716
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:46,160
don't know maybe i'm going out on a limb

1717
01:05:49,349 --> 01:05:48,000
but that's a question i wish i would

1718
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:49,359
have asked erica

1719
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:52,559
you definitely and legitimately should

1720
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,640
stay in touch with ufo classified it's

1721
01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:56,319
pretty cool and

1722
01:06:02,549 --> 01:05:59,920
the video of the pyramid ufo leaked

1723
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:02,559
near a navy destroyer definitely keep

1724
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:05,039
track of jeremy corbell you can do that

1725
01:06:14,510 --> 01:06:08,079
at jeremy corbell instagram facebook

1726
01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:16,789
extraordinarybeliefs.com and you can see

1727
01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:18,160
his stuff there

1728
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:19,839
until next time keep your eyes to the

1729
01:06:21,910 --> 01:06:21,359
skies feet on the ground but don't

1730
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:21,920
forget

1731
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:31,970
to take a look around

1732
01:06:48,820 --> 01:06:42,549
come blast off in my time machine third